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Nov 30, 2012 7:00pm EST
knows, i believe that president obama knows that ain't going to happen. the debt ceiling vote's not going to go away. the new stimulus is not going to go away. the 4 to 1 revenues over spending cuts. there really are no real spending cuts. none of that stuff's going to work. they know that, neil. i mean, what about the art of negotiating and finding common ground? isn't there still some of that left alive in congress? >> larry, we're running a $1 trillion deficit a year. so any deal that doesn't start to make serious impact into that is not a deal worth doing. so yes, they should definitely negotiate. they should ask for real fundamental reforms to the entitlement system. we all know that's what we need. and if they got a deal that had some real reform in it, sure. they should be willing to give and take on such a deal. there's nothing like that that's likely to be on the table. and jumping is a lot better than a phony deal. >> why are you so pessimistic? before i come back to senator hutchson, obama started out pretty conciliatory. you're very pessimistic, neil. >> obama came
CNBC
Dec 6, 2012 6:00am EST
? >> it is interesting if you look at the negotiations that president obama offered this massive tax increase with no concessions and this sort of outrageous request on the debt limit which was a really aggressive first offer. and then the republican s countered with a moderate reasonable plan exactly modeled after a proposal by erskine bowles. so if you're trying to handicap the negotiations, you'd have to concede that dana is on to something. >> really. so -- >> at least like the starting point. so basically the starting point for the republicans is what president obama probably would have viewed as a victory if they had the negotiation. >> yeah, he wanted another 400 supposed supposedly. how does simpson-bowles get to -- how does it raise revenue? what's the number that it raises? >> well, it depends because they have a bunch of different simpson-bowles plans. like in the bowles-simpson report, there are three different tax plans and then the thing that the republicans modeled after was something that bowles said in a hearing. >> it's interesting when you look at what these plans are laid
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